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Wrong Way Forward
44. Is a Matchmaker Worth It? An Insider Tells All.
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Should you hire a matchmaker? Is it worth the investment—or are dating apps still the best way to find love?
This week on Wrong Way Forward, Justin and Katy sit down with R. Tony Smith, founder of Denver's Cupid, to uncover the truth about modern matchmaking. We discuss who benefits most from hiring a matchmaker, the biggest mistakes singles make, why the "spark" on a first date may be overrated, and how doing the work on yourself is often the key to finding a lasting relationship.
Whether you're single, divorced, frustrated with dating apps, or simply curious about professional matchmaking, this conversation offers practical advice and plenty of laughs.
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Welcome And Why Matchmaking
SpeakerShe's Katy Montgomery. She's Justin Joseph. These best friends are serving subpoenas to bad advice weekly with Wrong Way Forward. Now here's Katy and Justin.
Katy MontgomeryHi everyone, and welcome to Wrong Way Forward. This is the podcast where we roast bad advice and then we try to give you some type of solution or some type of good advice so you move forward. Today we are so, so very excited. Um we have a wonderful guest, Tony Smith. And today we're going to be talking about matchmaking, finding that significant other. So I'll pass it on to my best friend and co-host, Justin Joseph.
Justin JosephHi, everybody. Tony and I have been friends for many years. In fact, I think when I first came out back in, I always call it the 80s, but it was the early 2000s, um, because I knew no one, I joined a volleyball league. And Tony was one of the first people I met. Um he met his husband shortly after. So I think you kind of disappeared or I kind of disappeared. But anyway, we frequently see each other out and about. And um, Tony is has a wonderful business where he does matchmaking for the LGBTQ community. But we thought that skill set certainly transfers. And so we thought for all, Katy, I mean, how many times have we done these podcasts where we're talking about people who are trying to find the love of their life?
Katy MontgomeryWell, I think it's that, but it's like everything's relationship-based, right? I mean, you know, it's all about the relationships in your life, period. I mean, that's what brings true happiness. So I am sure that Tony is not just going to talk about the love of your life, but how to build good relationships.
Justin JosephSo, with that, Tony, tell us a little about yourself, your background, and what brought you into Denver's Cupid, which is the matchmaking service
Tony’s Story And Denver’s Cupid
Justin Josephthat you started.
Speaker 3Thank you so much, Justin and Katy. And yes, indeed, you and I met in the early 2000s. I met my husband playing volleyball, 2002, at Cheeseman Park. But hi, everyone, I'm R. Tony Smith, founder and owner of Denver's Cupid. And for 25 years, I've been building community right here in Denver. And if there's one thing I know, it's that some people are taking the wrong way forward when it comes to love. People are treating their hearts like a digital slot machine, and I'm here to help you get off the bench and into the game. And at Denver's Cupid, we offer 100% private personal boutique matchmaking for our LGBTQ community.
Justin JosephAnd Tony, am I right that that skill set? I mean, matchmaking is you can find matchmakers in any sort of community, whatever your your sort of love life looks like. But the the skill set is the same, is that right?
Speaker 3Uh well, yeah, I would say, I would say so. The, you know, the wrong way forward is trusting uncertified, unregulated, ghost type operators who hide behind anonymous websites, okay, algorithms or fake promises. But I will say that um, like so many things in life, uh, people say that they're they feel like they were destined to do that. I was raised in a Filipino household, Filipino mother, Filipino mother, American dad. My mom was wearing Filipino disco parties my whole life, and it was all about connection. And my mom always remembered who needed what. And I took that and I went into event production and I've been connecting people my entire life. So when people ask me, how long have you been a matchmaking? I said, well, pretty much my whole life. But I started Denver's Cupid actually in 2020 during COVID when we really, really needed connection.
Justin JosephAnd so tell me, because looking at your, I mean, looking at your Instagram profile, I mean, you are out and about in the community at constantly at events. Are you meeting prospects? And I don't mean clients, I mean prospects for your clients to all these events. Is that what's happening?
Speaker 3Yeah, I would say that's also is a good sign of a matchmaker is
Avoiding Shady Matchmaking Scams
Speaker 3being completely transparent in all social media. And so that's why I'm hyper public. You can look at me and my personal my personal handle and my Denver's Cupid handle, and you'll see that I'm constantly posting that I'm all over the place. But to answer your question, it is both at all times. It's both a curse and a blessing for matchmakers. I'm constantly thinking, oh my God, yes, you'd be a great help. Or um, how can I help you? You know, but it's also all the networking, you know, uh 18 years, as you might recall, Justin, at the Cherry Creek Arts Festival. Oh, okay. 350,000 people every single year. But along with all that networking, I was the um essentially the talking head in media. So I became a known person that way, and then also serving boards and commissions. So I like to tell people, I it is my job to know everybody, and that's a matchmaker's job. So you really want to find someone that is hyper, hyper connected. And I also tell people, I have everything to lose by not being a person of my word. And that's proof in the pudding with my social media. And what I also go on to say is I ran for Denver City Council. And if you ever run for office, people will say, if you got any skeletons in the closet, they're gonna come out. So uh I also I'm very proud of my reputation. And that's the other thing people can do is just Google them, look at their reviews, and just see if there's any better business bureau complaints on them or anything like that. And I'm just really proud that it's a very hard job, as anyone knows that's public, including you all. Uh, whenever you're public, you have you're under a lot more scrutiny. So definitely look those things up.
Justin JosephSo take us to the beginning. If someone's interested, you know, I'm assuming people who find you have probably tried the various dating sites, they've probably been to the bars, they're probably fed up with the whole thing. And so they think this may be a last resort. I'm guessing you would argue it should be a first resort. But if it's a last resort, how do people start and like what should they who are who's your ideal client?
Speaker 3I would say, you know, the wrong way forward is jumping into a search just because you are, like you said, lonely, bored, or expecting a matchmaker to wave their magic wand and just fix your single status. Um, and so it's really about people who have done the work. You know your worth, you're ready to, you're already content with your life, but you're just looking for someone to multiply your magic rather than completely, complete you. And also it's about, you know, you're ready when you're ready to trade that addictive, low effort slot machine of swiping left and right and you know, start working on a more of a values-based strategy. So it's it does start with who you are first. And uh some people think that um it's it's not for
Who Matchmaking Works Best For
Speaker 3them because uh they think it's a last resort or something like that. And it's really the executive that knows the value of time. It is not a uh, you know, matchmaking isn't a depreciating asset like a kitchen remodel. Also, uh executives professionals um or people who just know what they want know that you hire a specialist in what you're looking for. I am not gonna tailor my own clothes. I am gonna hire someone that knows what they're doing, you know, and just like I don't know anything about podcasting, so I would reach out to you all to say, you know, what are the best, you know, what's the best way to go around about this? So it's about hiring a professional.
Katy MontgomeryYeah. So Tony, I'm just dying to know because you know, in addition to kind of being a matchmaker, I'm assuming kind of after a date, you do get feedback. Um, and so what are you seeing are the the the wrong way forward, the biggest mistakes people are making in those first encounters when they have those first dates?
Speaker 3Well, it's I would say, and I in my world called dating 101, but perhaps everyone should be reminded of this, perhaps, is when you meet someone for the first time, you want to dive right into your value, your connect, what you could connect on. And so one of the things that uh my company does is also speed dating events. And I always tell people the very first thing you say is, of course, you introduce your name. And it's about um actually
First Dates That Build Connection
Speaker 3before the date, I tell people to walk around the block and know you deserve that amazing date. The universe is yours to take. So it starts with you, and then that energy is the very first thing that person feels and sees. It's whatever you're projecting will come through. And then it's about starting out with the, of course, the lighter things, things you're into, like, oh my goodness, I was just on this amazing trip in Spain. Are are you into travel? Uh, when I'm matchmaking, I do all that work beforehand, and I even have the icebreaker question ready to go based on something that they uh have in common. But it start out with the smaller things and that dating 101 that I was referring to isn't like I just got out of a five-year divorce. Right. You know, or I've got this ailment. It's about keeping it light and finding connection.
Justin JosephSo, you know, not to dumb it down, but uh my only exposure to matchmaking is I'm sure that you hear this all the time, is the millionaire matchmaker, which I watched a lot of back in the day when it was on. And she always would firstly, is that real life? I mean, obviously she deals with wealthy individuals, I'm sure you do too, but is that a good representation of what matchmaking looks like?
Speaker 3Uh, you know, I would say anything we see on reality TV is is magnified, right? Even any social media is magnified. And so I think it's up to each of us to get the entertainment value out of it. And then without question, the reason why they're also popular is there's a lot of reality to what they're going through. So when I'm working with clients, it's I become my client's headhunter. What are you looking for? And this is how it works. It's and people wonder what's the magic of matchmaking. It's yes, check boxes, this age, that age, uh, this
Reality TV Versus Real Service
Speaker 3ethnicity, that ethnicity, these set of values. And you can imagine people list their deal breakers, and there's one number one deal breaker out there right now that I and I won't bring up any particular colors, but um, it is you know, there are we don't discuss colors on our podcast. Yes, and this is this melon.
Justin JosephI was even though that lets look a little MAGA red.
Speaker 3But um, I think that with the millionaire matchmaker, and she's a very well-known person in our industry, and she's great. Um it's when I'm talking to potential new clients, I say, okay, you're looking for 35 to 55 and all these characteristics. It gets different when you're like, I need for them to be, I'm 99 years old. I want a 21-year-old that drives an orange pinto that's within my block. Okay, that is a different kind of match. And so, and that's when I also say um it's another thing to look for in a matchmaker is you want to find someone that's gonna put the same amount of work into every match, no matter what your income level is. The difference in the matchmaking packages, that's something that I highly encourage people to look into when they're shopping for a matchmaker is how do they work, their reputation, like I said, but then the service levels. So sometimes it is like, oh, you know what you're doing. I can put you on dates like this. So you're gonna be low touch point, but then back to your point about millionaire matchmaker, you become their personal concierge. You I will answer the phone every single time you call. You'll get me at specific times of the day that no one else has access to. Right. They may be in the bathroom on a date calling you saying, This happened, what do I do? Right, right, right. So it's just like I'm flying to Paris tomorrow, I'm I mean through London to get to Spain. And there's many ways of getting there. Yes, I love my clear. Yes, I love my MX Lounge. But then all of us know I don't got that private jet. I just um so there's
How To Reach The Show
Speaker 3Tony, we're gonna pick this up on the other side.
Justin JosephTell me where, tell people where they can find you if they are interested in your services. We'll talk more on the other side, of course, but let's at least get that on the air right now. Sure. Denverscupid.com. Okay. So we're talking today to our Tony Smith, who is the owner and founder of uh DenversCupid.com. We're getting his best dating advice. We're talking about if you are in the market for another person or to make connection, this is the route to go. And we'll talk to Tony about his best tips right on the other side. We'll be back with Wrong Way Forward.
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SpeakerNow back to Wrong Way Forward, roasting the worst advice ever. Welcome back to the Katy and Justin podcast.
Katy MontgomeryHi, everyone, and we're back, and
Values, Self-Care, Doing The Work
Katy Montgomerywe are so excited to be here with R. Tony Smith of Denver's Cupid, and he's talking to us about the wrong way forward when kind of looking for love. And uh what I found so interesting that you were talking about, because I've done a lot of executive coaching and kind of career coaching throughout my career. And a lot of times we get to that values-based, right? Like, how do you connect to have the impact? And I'm wondering, how do you get people? Are people coming to you values-based, or are you having to lead them along the way? And how do we get people who are thinking about love to get past those kind of maybe superficial things, six foot tall, this particular age, this particular build? Or is that not your job? Your job is to really help them find what makes them happiest.
Speaker 3Yeah, I'd say it's a blend of all of the above. Number one, I've been with my husband for very proudly 24 years. And what I didn't realize was number one, um, I did all kinds of work on three very challenging relationships first. So you have to do the work first.
Justin JosephWhat do you mean by that, Tony? Tell us what you mean by that. Doing the work. Well, that and the fact that you you did the work on three prior relationships. What is that?
Speaker 3Yes. So I feel like the universe is going to do you the same cards until you learn the lesson. And that's kind of like something that maybe our parents told us. Great idea. But also, if I had lived in a pretty Pollyanna-ish growing up where not a lot of challenges and not a lot of uh great um loving experiences other than my parents, but that's also where we get our initial um programming for how we deal with love, friendships, belonging, and all those kinds of things. So it's those kinds of things that build up to when you start wondering, what did I do wrong or what did my parents do wrong? And that's where doing the work comes into play about taking your inventory, uh, and that is finding out why you tick and why you respond in certain ways. And there's so many tests out there, you know, your love languages and those kinds of things. But when I was uh mentioning meeting my husband, um, I had done the work on three relationships that dealt me very, very hard knocks, things that I had never had to deal with before. And things my bottom line for those three, and this is my ultimate lesson in life, is self-care. When you and I love it when RuPaul says it, she says, if you can't love yourself, how are you gonna love anybody else? She says it in the way. But it starts with loving yourself, and that is one of those key values is um where you come from and what is important to you. And then other learned things along the way that I found that I have in common with my husband is justice. When we see injustice on the TV screen, it's one of those things that ties us together. But there's so many other values in line. It's religion. Like I had one client that was Jewish and said, I only want a big Jewish family because for centuries, that's what my family's done. Got it. Um, and you name it, it's their money and um children or not, and all those kinds of things. So for sure. Also, Katy, to answer your question, as part of the onboarding process, and I also encourage people to always fill out create a free, private, personal uh profile on Denver's Cupid. I believe everyone deserves love, so it's free. Um, and you get into the database and into the system, off the bench, into the game. But it's and you get in free in that sense, right? I mean, if someone picks you, you don't have to pay for it. Well, actually, well, matchmaking is an investment, but everyone in my database, everyone I've ever known, plus all the matchmakers I work with, instantly expand your database. But but just by going into the database, you're eligible for a date with one of my clients. But on the onboarding process is a long list of values. Got it.
Justin JosephLet's talk about some misconceptions. Um, firstly, what do you do when someone's like, I want someone hot? Like that's their I'm sure this happens all the time.
Speaker 3Um well, there is, I always have to start with there is something to be said about someone being interested in a type. So my mom, 4'11, dad, 5'11, Filipina white guy. My brother and I both like tall blondes. Um, my brother likes women, I like men, and my husband is a foot taller than me. So I've always just liked tall white guys. I'm not gonna let because of my own personal
Types, Age Gaps, Spark Myth
Speaker 3experience, and I think that's where we all need to start. Um, I also um let people know that that is sometimes you have a thing. And also, I will say about age. Oh, yeah. Um, I we spend a lot of time in Pomp Springs, and there are so many very huge age gaps in relationships, just like people like their particular types, age is another characteristic that people like. It's not a mommy daddy thing. I think it is two people are at the same emotional level, just different outwardly ages. Um, so I think that that is just another one of those things that are out there. So, but what I also say is um it evolves over time. Some people will be like, I love everybody. You're the perfect matchmaking person because we can then explore, and I can be your coach about how did that make did that person make you feel seen when you guys were on the date? And how did they make did you feel pretty or handsome with that person? Um but also I tell people this is another big giant uh myth, is the spark on the first date. Okay, like, oh, I didn't feel it. I think what I always tell people when this was in the last segment was um finding the connection first. When you're meeting a friend, a new business person, or as my father would always say, he never met a stranger, talk to the person at the grocery store. You know, I mean the clerk, make a connection, and then when you're on that date and you just keep finding more connections, you might not have a spark, but you might be interested to go on another date with them. And then also, people many times in the matchmaking industry and the world at large, they don't fall in love overnight. It's it's I just and this is what I said about my husband. I don't know why. I just kept wanting to be around him. And that's I think that's a great lesson.
Justin JosephYeah. Um, well, other let's we're talking to Denver's R Tony Smith with Denverscupid.com. Um, talk to us about the investment. Do we do we say numbers or is it each case specific? How does all that work?
Speaker 3Yeah, I would say that it is definitely like any kind of investment in your life, and this is about an investment that's gonna last decades, and to not treat it like you're buying uh a kitchen remodel or something like that. It's definitely a more substantial investment. So whenever you're dealing with something bespoke, it's it's definitely gonna be more of an investment. I will also say it depends on um different parts of the country are different. Um, and then also just like um all businesses have niches, like I love your niche of going through life uh more aware. Um, so everything has a niche. My niche is definitely LGBTQ. Uh, there are matchmakers that focus on Asian, Jewish, okay, African-American, you name it, every single segment of the population is represented, just like we have representatives in government for every single one of us.
Justin JosephSo on that note, if we have people listening that are not part of the LGBTQ community, can they reach out to you and say, I'm a single white female, and I who would you recommend? I mean, do you will you make connections to other matchmakers?
Speaker 3Absolutely. Matchmakers can make connections to other matchmakers, and I'd be happy to do that. Um, Katy, what other misconceptions are out there?
Justin JosephKate, Katy, would you use one? Let's start there.
Katy MontgomeryWell, I mean, there has always been a comment about this. And I have a friend who actually used a matchmaker. And I don't know if you remember, but when we used to take um the airplanes, it would be like, let's just do lunch.
Cost, Niches, Referrals That Help
Katy MontgomeryI think there was something called that. And it was, you know, advertised in every, you know, airplane magazine. Um, I don't know. It seems like a really big investment. Um, and it's almost, I think it's a great idea. I think Tony is really um inspiring in the fact that he's so good at what he does and is such a connector. But it's almost like I would want to like flip through the book first and then see, okay. And then that's, and again, I try to find myself to be a values-based person, but I know that there would be some other sticking points. So I think he made a really good point of people are specializing in kind of different things, right? And so I think it's it's looking for the right personality, but then also what's the right kind of niche and community that that person is is working in. But I can tell you I it's it's turning now. Tony, Tony is starting to change my mind on matchmaking.
Justin JosephAnd Tony, let me ask you that. Do you find that there is a not a stigma? I don't think that's the right word, but I guess early on in internet dating. Was sort of people didn't tell, like they wouldn't say. I've had a ton of friends that have met on the internet and stayed together, but it took them years to to kind of disclose that. Now they have no problem with it. Do you find it that people are hard are are hesitant to do to say I met someone in a matchmaker? Do you find that?
Speaker 3Um, I would say that it it's there's not one distinct answer, obviously. But um, like you were just saying, many people would say I they won't admit they met on a dating app, but now people are like, yep, we met on a dating app. Uh I would say that I also tell people because I'm constantly out being people's wing person at events, like another thing I do, Denver Pride Professionals, highly recommended. Quarterly, LGBTQ plus ally networking, free. Uh, I always have three to five hundred people, and I tell my clients, when you go, you can say it's up to you, Tony's my matchmaker, or I just say, How do you know Tony? Oh, Tony knows everybody. Um, so it's up to this person to, you know, to decide if they want to say what they're doing. But I have heard many people say they're very proud to say that they've got a matchmaker.
Justin JosephWell, Tony tells everybody where they can find you. Again, if you're not a member of the LGTB community, but you are interested in matchmaking, Tony's happy to hook you up with someone who um kind of works with whatever area you're in. Uh, where can people find you, Tony?
Speaker 3Yeah, so uh number one, DenversCupid.com. And then also the same with my social media handle, Denver'sCupid. And also I would say uh, you know, there's so many matchmakers out there. There is a wonderful organization called the Matchmakers Alliance. It is one of many uh organizations that I'm a part of that keeps us together as a professional field.
Justin JosephTony, we have 30 seconds left. Give us a quick client success story, something fun.
Speaker 3Oh my goodness. Um gosh, 30 seconds and a success story. I always love to say my own success story, but um, I have um married a couple, um, but that's that's more private. I was like, what can I actually share? That's sorry, I should have given you a heads up. I will say my favorite thing is people say, I set up people on blind dates. My parents happen to meet on a blind date, and they'll say, How do we how do we know who the other person is? This is corny, but it works. Arrive with a you have to arrive with a single flower and look for the only other person with a single flower. Corny, but it works, but you should also do that for your dates is bring something unexpected.
Justin JosephGreat advice. Well, our Tony
Matchmaker Stigma And Pride Networking
Justin JosephSmith, we really appreciate you coming on. Of course, um, if you have questions, you can always text us on our text line at 720-451 or 251-4450. Um, you can email us at the wrongwayforward at gmail.com podcast. Um and Tony, if we get questions, we'll be bringing you back on. We appreciate your insight, your expertise. And um, yeah, we're rooting for everybody out there to find love. Thank you, Katy. Thank you, Justin. Happy Pride Month and Love is Love.
Katy MontgomeryThank you.
Justin JosephAnd we'll be right back after this, everybody. Thanks for streaming Wrong Way Forward, the weekly reminder that advice is usually free for a reason. We call out bad advice wherever it hides, boardrooms, break rooms, and even book clubs.
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SpeakerRoasting the worst advice ever. Welcome back to the Katy and Justin.
Justin JosephSo welcome back. This week's episode, we were talking to our Tony Smith with Denver'sCupid.com, talking about something that Katy, I don't know, I do feel like there's a I don't think stigma is the right word, but it's not approachable, maybe. I'm guessing it's very expensive. Tony did not want to talk about the investment. But um, anyway, I thought it was a really interesting take for people who are trying to find love.
Katy MontgomeryI think it's great. And I don't necessarily think there's a stigma. I think it's the investment, right? And I think it's the investment without knowing. You know, if you go
The Single Flower Blind Date Trick
Katy Montgomeryand you spend $3,000 on a Fendi bag, you get to keep that Fendi bag and you carry it everywhere you go. If you go on, I don't know, match.com and it's $19.99 a month, $20 is is mentally not something, you know, that's the same price as like, you know, a big Mac Mill, right? So I think it's more the investment. But I think what people, my my biggest takeaway for this is that it's like garbage in, garbage out, right? And I think what is great is Tony is an expert. He knows the market, he is a connector and relationship builder. And I heard that he's a coach, like you're getting feedback. So it really is you get what you pay for. And I think it's people taking a hard look like, do you want to find love? And if what I think is really interesting is he launched this during COVID when people were lonely and needed relationships and couldn't find each other. And so if you are at a stage in your life, I'm talking to myself a little bit here, and you're not finding those people through the traditional measures, maybe it's time to have someone. But I think the real question is is are you willing to commit? And what is the fear behind that? And we can say the word stigma and we could say the word cost, but you know, is it that a matchmaker is going to really tell you like it is and is really gonna intimately know you and is gonna get feedback on your dates, and that's a real positive, but then
Host Takeaways And Questions For You
Katy Montgomerythere's also some fear in that, right? Maybe it confirms all those things you thought about yourself and why you're single. I think that's the hurdle we need to get over. And I think this is being curious and taking risks.
Justin JosephAnd I think what she was saying just a minute ago, and I know her camera froze up, was that there's some fear behind that. The other thing I would add to what Katy was saying is the fact that um you look at people who pay for their own education, the money you put in, if it's your own money, um, it tends to be you invest more in it. And so you're more committed to it. And so even though it is an expense, I think it's an expense that if you're paying it out of pocket, you're going to put the time in needed to make it work. And I think like anything, it's not for everyone, right? I mean, um, it reminds me, and I think what Katy said also was really made a lot of sense when we talked about that you your preference is to always have a book, right? You're making a $3,000 deposit. You don't know what you're getting on the other side. Whereas when I went to bars to meet people, I could look over the crowd and pick out people who are dressed in the way that I wanted them to be dressed and look the way that I wanted them to be looked. And so that was easier than making an investment and then not knowing what's coming out of the other side. But um, I think that's right. All right. Well, that was this week's episode of Wrong Way Forward. We were joined by R. Tony Smith with DenversCupid.com. Of course, we always welcome your feedback, your texts at 720-25140-450. You can always email us at wrongwayforwardpodcast at gmail.com. And of course, we love to hear from you and would love to hear your own stories on your match. How did you meet your significant other? Would you use a matchmaker? If so, why? If not, why not? And as always, we thank you for watching. We'll see you next time on Wrong Way Forward. All right, that's a wrap on this week's episode of Wrong Way Forward. Remember, the only thing worse than taking bad advice is giving it.
Katy MontgomeryIf you've liked what you've heard, like, subscribe, or follow us wherever you stream podcasts. And if you've got a topic or need some advice, we'll probably regret giving, email us at wrongwayforwardpodcast at gmail.com.
Justin JosephThanks for listening to this week's episode of Wrong Way Forward.
